RNA-Seq without replicate using Kallisto
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weixiaokuan ▴ 140

Hi, I have a project using RNA-Seq but there are no replicates for each condition. I am wondering what method I should use for such a situation. Especially, how I should normalize the data? Apparently, I cannot use limma-voom pipeline. It seems I may be able to use DESeq2. But I am wondering if it's possible to directly compare TPM for each condition using Kallisto as the reads somehow normalized to TPM scale. I haven't seen such discussions using Kallisto before but I would like to know if you have any thoughts on this. Thank you.

-Xiaokuan

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This is not an answer, but in general RNA-seq without at least two replicates isn't very reliable.

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I know. But I want to have some measurement anyway, especially after some normalization/scaling. Not all the experiments have full replicates.

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What's your goal? Without replicates you can't do any of the most common comparisons.

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to identify some trend of differentially expressed genes then we may perform further experiments to validate.

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You can try GFOLD, that's about it. In the future though you'd find it's better to spend a bit more for replicates to save a LOT later.

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totally understood. However, a lot of times, things are not controlled by us and sometimes the samples are just not enough. So I think a method for no replicates is very helpful. Thank you for all the help. -Xiaokuan

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Helpful, maybe. Statistically sound and reliable, no.

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by they way, will TPM from Kallisto help in this situation?

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No, nothing can help any more in this situation, it's impossible.

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Maybe I didn't make it very clear. I know it's no way to attain statistical evaluation. But I am wondering if there is any way to scale the data such as by lib sizes. I am thinking TPM from kallisto is one way to do it. -Xiaokuan

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Any of the standard methods will work there, though TPM is not exactly my preferred method (for the same reason that FPKMs are problematic).

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